Places I Boycott and Why

Bad Guys/Products                                                                                             Good Guys/Good Stuff

Symantec                                                                                                                 AutoValue

Pizza Hut                                                                                                                  Bolt Warehouse

Universal Ford                                                                                                         Guyon Racing

Shaw Communications                                                                                          Mopac Race Parts

Canadian Tire Auto Repair                                                                                    ING Bank

World of Wheels                                                                                                      Royal Bank - with reservations

Channel 13 Access                                                                                                 A&W

Bank of Montreal                                                                                                     Staples

Future Shop                                                                                                             Nucleus Information Services

ADT Security                                                                                                            7-11

Winks

Tim Horton's

AMD

Tiger Direct

Visions Electronics

Coffee Time Donuts

Walmart

Telus Communications

Best Buy

Optmima Batteries

 

RED is BAD-STOP don't shop

GREEN is Good - shop at these places


They just don't get it. All the establishments (red titles) listed in this blog gave me poor service. I'm not a complainer, I'll eat the steak if it isn't done right, without complaint. I'll remove the hair in the food and eat it. The food! I won't complain when I get slow service at the burger bar or the customer service at a store. But there are times when you just want justice when people fail to deliver. To quote from the movie Network: "I've had enough and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

I'm in customer service and answer the phone 24/7 for the products I do service on. I give 120% to my customers and hang on or remain in the loop until they are satisfied. The buck stops at Bob's phone. Consequently I expect similar service, or at least an ATTEMPT from the people I spend money with, or write letters to.

For research done on this topic, read this article:  News  iSpeak.mht
 


Symantec Corporation


I was a big Norton fan from DOS days for Pete's sake! I loved Norton Integrator and Norton Utilities and their disk doctor product where you could actually see the File allocation table code and stuff. Cool! I thought Peter Norton was a genius. Alas, I think he sold out to Symantec and things went downhill from there. I use PC Anywhere, a reasonably good product that I've had no problems with, but their Norton Antivirus is another matter. I was buying it every year as a bonus that came with my QuickTax software. Sometimes it worked. Most of the time it would crash or hang my XP computer and would bug the hell out of me when it scanned a Word file I created, for many minutes before saying it was Okay. I mean, I wrote the damn thing, but the AV would still take minutes to scan it. Stupid thing. Norton didn't find a virus that another program (McAffee) did. It was a big one too, and my AV was ALWAYS up-to-date because I had Auto-update on. AVG found it and killed it. I emailed Symantec about this and THEY didn't respond either. I didn't see the virus in their hit list and here I thought they were the Kings of the AV world! They have become too big and too complacent. I had about 9 months left on my AV subscription and I took Norton off and bought AVG antivirus. Not ONE problem with the latter. No hangups. No long scans for NOTHING. I love it. I hate Norton AV and will not recommend it to anyone. (And I'm a consultant for these kinds of things).

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Pizza Hut Restaurant

I really liked Pizza Hut because they had different kinds of pizzas, including a pizza "desert" that no one else had.  I visited Pizza Huts in Calgary, and in the United States and was disappointed with most of them.  In one I was given sour chocolate milk, that was expired as shown on the date.  I asked for a replacement and got another sour one.  This one I hadn't opened because it had the same date as the previous one.  At another place, my wife was given a salad with a moldy piece of lettuce.  My friend and I went to a place in the USA and we waited an hour for a pizza that never came but was always promised.  We left without eating.  And another time, my wife found a hair in her food.  I can see why the Pizza Hut in Calgary closed.

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Universal Ford and Ford Motor Company

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I've been a Ford man for 45 years...

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SHAW Communications

coming soon

They don't know how to communicate...

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Canadian Tire

My wife had an overheating and antifreeze-loss problem with her 4 liter Mustang so I told her to take it to Canadian Tire.  After all, they are my favourite store for tools, parts, car stuff, hardware, you name it.  First they replaced the thermostat and of course they never saved the antifreeze so they charged her for another gallon.  The engine still overheated.  Then they did a radiator/engine flush which they said they "had" to do.  That didn't work either.  Then they changed out the water pump.  I knew now they were getting pretty ridiculous because, though a defective water pump could cause the engine to overheat, there was no evidence of this from other symptoms.  For example, the water pump did not leak through the bleed hole, indicating the seal was shot.  Also, there was no high pitch squeal from the water pump, typical of a failure.  Finally, a visual inspection of the water pump showed no problems with worn or broken impeller blades.  So why did they change it?  Of course it didn't fix the problem and now the costs were over $100 for the pump replacement.  I went to Canadian Tire and had a discussion with the service manager who found it difficult to talk his way out of this one, so he suggested we talk to the mechanic.  I asked the same questions, "Why did you replace the water pump" and "If the first thing you "repaired" didn't work, why were we charged for it?  To the latter, he responded "because the car needed it".  Talk about ridiculous.  I asked if they checked the thermostat they took out (by putting in hot water and measuring temperature of when it opened).  They said no.  So my question was, "if you didn't test it, how do you know it was needed...especially since it DIDN'T FIX THE PROBLEM!???"  When I told him the symptoms of a bad water pump he asked me somewhat acidly, "So you're a mechanic now?"  I said yes, and a "better one than you are".  He got real testy and was ready to bop me one and I was ready to respond.  In the end, my wife got all her money back and since it would cost more to take out the new water pump than it was worth, they let us keep it.  Oh yeah, I took the "defective" pump to another company, Moores Engine service and they said there was nothing wrong with the pump!  Of course there wasn't.

Moores, incidentally, found the problem by looking at the symptoms and saw that water was leaking into the crankcase.  A further inspection showed that a head bolt had snapped on the aluminum engine allowing antifreeze to leak out.  Leaking into the engine was a recent phenomena, earlier it was leaking down the side of the block where it was very difficult to see.

Addendum Dec 2007

A week before Christmas, I couldn't get my truck into the Toyota dealer for service because they were too full.  Toyota said it was because so many people travel at Christmas they want to make sure their vehicle is in good working order.  I walked by the Canadian Tire store I regularly shop at and noticed that EVERY one of their 10 stalls (each holding 3 vehicles) were empty.  Not ONE vehicle in there and the floor was perfectly clean.  It's good the mechanics found something they can actually do well...

I went back on Dec 27 (2007) to buy a sander that had been listed on sale a few days before Christmas.  They would not give me the unit for the sale price stating that the rule is only one day grace is allowed.  I asked them what the difference was (now it was 5-6 days) and they said "if we did this for every customer it would get out of hand".  Well I was only the one customer with money to spend.  The sander didn't cost them any more so they would make the same profit they would have had they sold it to me last week.   The manager who had been called over to discuss my request had just been arguing vehemently with a Pakistani couple.  Obviously Canadian Tire is more interested in making a couple bucks extra than having good customer relations.  If my customer ever yelled at me, I'd be fired for not handling his requests effectively.  I bought the sander somewhere else.

 

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World of Wheels Car Show

The organizers of this yearly February show could do a lot better and make the Calgary date the biggest in the ISCA (International Show Car Association) group.  I was at the WoW in 2007 as a participant and found a bunch of issues that could have been handled better.  An email I sent was replied to by an organizer who said he "acknowledged all the statements I made" but he didn't comment one way or the other on individual items so it's unlikely things will change.  The WoW gets about 300 cars every year for the indoor show.  The Three Hills Car Show, outside on main street gets over 1000 every year.

These are the complaints about the 2007 WoW:

The Ugly:
General Comment:

Addendum:

I voluntered to help for WoW 2008 but my request was not acknowledged.  I figure you shouldn't complain if you can't come up with solutions, so  I voluntered to take pictures of every participant and arrange to have the pictures shown in the theatre when they won their prize, kinda like the Oscars.  I had seen this done at an International Mustang event and it was very, very effective.  No answer to my email.

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Channel 13, Access TV Calgary
What boneheads. We were watching a movie (The Phone Booth) and with 5-10 minutes remaining, they cut the movie off at precisely 11:00 PM. They then ran the stupid program regularly scheduled for that time slot. We continued to watch, thinking it was just an internal commercial, but no, the program never returned. When I complained via their web site, they never responded. I complained to the CRTC who said there was nothing they could do about TV programming! What the hell is the CRTC for, then, anyway?


Then I watched Monk and the entire program was skewed with no sound sometimes, no video, then distorted video and sound - for the entire hour. Next week the SAME THING! Are they idiots or what? I complained again, but in true arrogance, they did not reply. A month later, we were watching another movie and the stupid people did the SAME THING! At precisely 11:00 PM, they cut the end of the movie by 5-10 minutes. I complained again, and got a form letter from them. I complained to CRTC and got nothing.  My response: we don't watch that channel AT ALL anymore! The other day the best movie of the night was on channel 13, but we elected to do something else instead of getting abused again. (We only have 4 free channels).
 

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AutoValue Auto Stores

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Bolt Warehouse

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Guyon Racing

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Dell, Microsoft, HP 
(yeah I know it's hard to believe...)

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ING Direct (Internet Bank)

These guys are great.  They have an easy-to-maneuver web-site, they have the best interest rate on savings, GICs and RRSPs in the industry and they answer their emails!!!  They don't have branches but are just an Internet Bank.  They also have contests and promotions where you can win or earn money.  If I could make my bill payments through them and have a good way to deposit cheques and stuff, I'd use them exclusively.

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Royal Bank – Bob S.

Okay, I hate ALL banks.  They nit pick and nickle and dime everyone to death, yet they post profits in the billions of dollars.  In my mutual funds, the best investments are the banks.  They charge me $1.50 to send money by email, $1.50 if I get money from a bank machine that isn't owned by them.  They charge me to see a photocopy of my cheques!  Man, that infuriates me to no end!  The interest they give (except for ING which I don't consider in this group at all) is pathetically low, and emails get responded to by a form letter.  I recently sent the bank an email stating that the fact I was charged $1.50 for a bank machine transaction pissed me off so much, I took $20,000 out of savings there and put it in the ING.  Did they care?  No.  They sent me a form letter explaining that transactions from a non-Royal Bank machine have the $1.50 surcharge.  Duh!  That's why I was complaining in the first place!

 So why is this complaint on the GREEN side?

Well, they had a guy at my local branch that handled my investment needs and he was really good.  Not only good, but cheap, not charging anything for his services.  For ONCE, there is something free from the bank, even though the idea is to keep your investments there and not with some other institution.  Bob would gently remind me by emails that we had an  appointment looming and would even set his schedule so that I could come in.  Once he worked on a Saturday when the bank was closed so that I could meet him.  Now that's service.  That isn't Royal Bank though, that's Bob S.  Unfortunately he moved to the coast and someone else took his job.  Stay tuned...

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Mopac Racing Equipment

Mopac has everything you need for car racing.  They have a great stock, a good catalog and will get you whatever you want from their other warehouses or locations at no extra cost.  They gave me good deals.  There are a couple cranky guys there who whine if you bring something back, but the two guys I deal with are super customer reps.

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Staples

I finally gave up on ink jet printers and decided to upgrade to a color laser printer.  Looking on the web, I found a real nice one at Tiger Direct for about $500, but the shipping from "wherever" (USA probably) was over $200.  I found out that Staples sold Brother printers so I went to their on-line store and found the model I wanted for about $600 with delivery FREE!  So I bought it and 3 days later it was delivered to my door.  Now how is that for service?

Another time I had a coupon for $25 from previous purchases made.  I had been carrying it around for months, and on the day  I used it I was informed it had become expired by almost a couple MONTHS!  The girl at Customer Service told me, "let me call the manager, maybe we can do something".  She did and without blinking an eye, the manager, said, "Yeah, no problem.  Honor it for full value".  How is THAT for service?

It doesn't stop there.  I had purchased a bunch of ink jet ink for my now dead ink printer (see paragraph above) and wanted to return it.  I had bought the ink in March, and here it was November so I was dubious about getting a refund.  The pleasant lady at Customer Service told me it was quite a while since I bought the ink but she would refund me the amount anyway.  Now that's service. 

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A&W Restaurants

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Nucleus Internet Services

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Future Shop


-Ahh, what can I say about Future Shop that is good?  Nothing.  Not after they destroyed my car putting a stereo, keeping it 3x longer than they promised, then charging the hell out of me.  I expected quality work but these guys were amateurs installing my stereo.  I mean , what professional electronics guy would twist wires together to make a "permanent" connection?

Here's a list of the wrongs they did:

They put in a big red 1/0 cable (big like your thumb) on the passenger side, then ran it across the firewall to the driver's side where the battery was.  Isn't that stupid?  This was a show car with lots of chrome under the hood and they made the whole thing ugly by running the cable across the firewall.  This is the first thing I fixed.

Solder is the most reliable connection, followed by a well-made crimped connector.  FSI (Future Shop Idiots) twisted the wires together then taped it with black tape.  I would excuse my 10 year old of doing this, but not people I'm paying $6000 to.

They obviously expected me to accept the crap wiring and so didn't put in any quick connects.  Wires were run in one run from head unit to amps in the back seat.

They didn't cover the engine as I asked.  The engine is chrome and got all dusty, making me work a lot to get it clean again.

I told them to keep the bar installed so the car wouldn't get stolen.  True, there were times it had to be off to do the work, but the car was there for many months with nothing being done on the car.

The car's a convertible show car.  I told them to keep it inside.  More than once I went past the shop to see the car outside and another vehicle in my former parking spot.  This really got me fuming.

 


Compensation:

The windshield was compensated for by taking off $500 from the main bill for the glass and my time and trouble to get it installed. (Paradoxically, my total bill went up too...)

Some advertising was applied inside the car and I was not compensated for it. I wanted $500 but it was refused.

I was given $300 Future Shop credit. This covers the insurance I had to pay, but there was no compensation for the paint scratches and smudges. Also, despite techs cleaning the engine, it's impossible to get all the dust out that came from the shop.

I also spent much time going back and forth to the shop to make sure work was being done and being done correctly. I should be compensated for that too.

2 years later as I'm trying to make modifications to the alarm system, I'm having difficulty resolving the differences in the alarm module wiring with the wiring in the manual I received from them. The manual was from a Viper 791XV. When I took out the module in the car, it was a 690XV! My bill said I was sold a 690XV, so I wasn't too hot under the collar. However, I wanted the latest and greatest when I bought the alarm system and if there was a 791XV manual, there MUST have been a 791XV system available. So they sold me old crap stock.

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ADT Security


They lied to me about the buyout price of the alarm after my 5 year contract, charging me a lot of money for what they said would be "free" after the 5 year contract. That's why I got the contract in the first place. Unfortunately the contract DID NOT say that, it was a verbal thing from the sales person. Three or four times there were phony alarms, requiring my neighbour to call the police and then monitor the house. ADT replaced a sensor and it was okay. No cops ever showed up, yet ADT was supposed to phone them. (my neighbour was phoned by ADT, did the inspection, called back, but ADT did not call the police).

After 5 years I cancelled the contract. It was about $30/month for piss-poor service, as noted above. I paid the big price to keep the unit because at least it had the horn that could scare away thieves. When my front door was replaced and I needed a sensor, the jerks did not even respond (twice) to my request for prices to replace it. I can replace it with a Radio Shack part, but I wanted the exact part that ADT used just to make life simple. They didn't cooperate so the hell with them. Boycott. Ask me what alarm system to use and I'll say Alarm Force, not ADT.

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Winks Food Store


They changed the name from Macs and they changed owners too. Previously there was always coffee available in the morning and it had a respectable price, like Esso or 7-Eleven. After the change, I was in there twice and both times the coffee pot was empty. When I did get a cup, it was priced way, way to high compared to the others. Result? I don't go there. Do you think I want to take the time to park, get out of my truck, go in, only to find that there's no coffee? I don't need the stress.
 

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Tim Hortons


Okay, I don't boycott Tim Hortons (do you think I'm nuts?)  but I'm pissed at them for the way they take advantage of us consumers. Did you ever have their yogurt? It's expensive. Not only that, check the cup they put it in. They don't fill the top 1" of the cup, the volume of which is quite significant because the diameter is greatest at that point. When I complained to them in an email, they responded that they did that so that the product wouldn't expand and leak out of the cup. Oh yeah? Get a yogurt at MacDonalds. It's cheaper to start with and they fill the cup to the max. Their product doesn't expand I guess. Tim Horton's thinks we are all fools.
 

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Bank of Montreal


I switched from BOM about 15 years ago because their MBanx internet banking service was real crap. I had made a mistake with my accounts, making one of them overdraft. I noticed the mistake right away and made the correction, because I had lots of money in the bank. They charged me an overdraft anyway. Despite my insistence that the time between the mistake and the recovery was only minutes, they insisted on "following the rules".  Instead of using common-sense, they went with what the computerized system was programmed to do. I fought with them tooth and nail. It was about principle, not the paltry $20 I was charged for the overdraft. They refused to comply, so I took all my money out of there. I had savings, checking, deposit box, cheques, credit card, and lots of investments. I threatened, they didn't listen. It was not an easy task changing banks: new cheques, new people to talk to, different techniques, etc. I took everything out except a few  term investments.

When I went to discuss my investment alternatives at the BOM, the advisor was a complete idiot. She didn't know her ass from a hole-in-the-ground, so last year, I started chipping away at the RRSPs and when they came due, I put them into my new bank: the Royal Bank.

And another thing...I like to do my income early and file with Netfile.  I find that this gets me my refund back much earlier.  In 2006, I had all my documents (so I thought) and filed my income tax around March timeframe.  A month later we (wife and I) get a statement from BOM showing some interest we had to include on our income tax.  This was very inconvenient, having to re-file because it's a different process than filing the first time.  Every other bank had sent me the proper documents (T3, T5) early, as expected.
 

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AMD processors


I bought an ASUS motherboard and a fast AMD processor for my video computer. In seemed to be working fine but I was getting weird errors from either Adobe Premiere or the Matrox NLE card I was using. The system was not happy and everything pointed to the processor as the culprit. This was my first AMD processor. I had bought another ASUS board for a different computer and since it was capable of taking a fast Intel processor, I used that mobo instead, with the Intel chip. Problem solved. No more issues.

I then sold the ASUS and AMD together to a colleague.  He called me later to say that the system did not work and when they brought it to a store to troubleshoot it, the store guys told them the MPU was cooked! How the hell did that happen? I used it for 2 months and it was fine when I took the system out of service. I was careful installing it in the case so I doubt I damaged it.  (I'm confident my colleague didn't damage it either.)

I got on the web to ASUS and AMD to get warranty. ASUS responded right away, gave me a RMA, and a number of weeks later, they told me there was nothing wrong with my board and sent it back to me.

AMD on the other hand pretty well ignored my requests, not only through the self-help warranty request process, but also directly by email. I finally got some form letter response from the jerks who told me that since it was not purchased installed on a mobo, that there was no warranty. (Forget the fact that a) I'm a certified Dell tech, b) been in electronics business for 30 years, even teaching it, c)I built more than one computer myself at the chip and PC board level, and d) the computer ran for 2 months with my installation.) Tiger Direct ignored me as well, even more so, not responding to one email. Tiger is where I bought the system.

So the idiots at AMD lost out on any potential future sales from me. ASUS? I have 3 mobos from them and I will buy the next one from them. AMD? Never. I often consult on computers and when asked my opinion I spit it out: Don't buy AMD. Buy Intel. Buy ASUS.
 

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Tiger Direct


These guys have the greatest selection and the best prices but if there is a problem with anything you buy there, don't ask Tiger for help. I had issues with rebates that the rebate issuer was not handling properly. It got so bad that I had to contact the BBB in Florida to get involved. Tiger said "we are not responsible", despite advertising big time that there is a rebate available for products they sell. When I had the AMD problem, they didn't even respond to my many emails. Result? I don't buy anything from them anymore. I took them off my mailing and favourite lists. Sure, they'll make money off some other sucker, but they won't off me and my friends who I will not recommend them to! I'm a gizmo guy making good money and I spend it foolishly on toys like those sold by Tiger Direct. No more. I shop at Best Buy and Staples now.

Addendum:  I've gone back.  You just can't beat their prices.  But watch about warranty.
 

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Visions Electronics


It's hard to believe that some of these places refused to honor some commitment, say to refund $20 on an item found elsewhere for $20 less. This is when they advertise they will beat any competitors price and have this "price guarantee". What they did was piss me off and I made a note to myself not to shop there anymore. Result? Maybe $5000 not spent there! This is the story about Visions. I bought a radar detector there for X dollars and found the same one advertised by someone else for $20 less. I went to Visions and pointed out their price guarantee. They pulled out a list of qualifications/rules that seemed to fill a complete page. I met all the main qualifications: had to be advertised, had to be within a certain date, could only make the claim at a certain time, and of course, had to be the identical model. I don't recall what it was they called me on, but I was so livid and shocked I asked to speak to the manager. He upheld the ruling! I was aghast! It was a little thing, like I bought the kit and the one advertised was OEM or something. For a lousy $20 difference they lost all my business. I never bought anything there since, although I did go into the store to look around. I would have needed something REALLY bad or the price was REALLY good before I bought there again. I didn't. I wrote a letter to the Better Business Bureau, the federal competition bureau and of course to Visions. Nothing came of it. They ignored the BBB.
 

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Coffee Time Donuts


When they first opened up on our corner, we went there on weekends for coffee and a donut and I would pick up a dozen donuts whenever I visited a customer site. They made huge, good donuts. This is when two white women ran the show. The quality was great, the shop was always very clean. Then they sold out to Pakistanis and the quality started to suffer. The place became a pig pen. We stopped going there on Saturday but I continued to buy donuts. One day I bought a dozen and when they were being packed I smelled something funny. Definitely not the smell of fresh donuts. When I was waiting in the truck for a colleague, I opened the box and bit into one. Yuck! These were stale from the weekend. They sold me shit! I threw the box out into the parking lot for the birds, then went to Tim Hortons. I predicted this place wouldn't last and within 6 months the place was closed. They made the best cinnamon buns in Calgary. Too bad.
 

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Walmart


Walmart is great for good prices on virtually anything. Can you imagine buying a pair of prescription sunglasses, with lenses and frame for $83? Anywhere else, they would be $300! So what's my complaint? Well it's not with glasses. It's with batteries.

I went to Walmart to buy an Optima car battery, the best battery to buy for car stereo systems. I get there when an Optima rep was helping put up a display for batteries. This was next to a sign that said,"No refunds, no substitutions, no..." What the hell is that about? Apparently they are worried that people who pick their own battery may not get the "proper" one for their application (this was for all their batteries, not just the Optima) and somehow screw things up. No refunds. Tough shit! I discussed this with the Optima guy who said there was a good warranty on his battery. I asked, "yeah, but Walmart won't take it back, so what's the point?" He told me I could go and rattle the store manager to get what I want! What a stupid thing to say. So I didn't buy a battery there. I went to the Battery Shop who gave me all the information I wanted, the warranties, the straight goods. Walmart: Take down your sign or stop selling batteries".
 

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Telus Communications


What crappy service! And I was a shareholder too!


First of all they were slow out the gate to give us high speed ADSL internet. I would have gone with them but Nucleus was advertising and they were eager for my business. It's ironic that Nucleus had to use the Telus lines and go back to a Telus interchange to do all this! I have been with Nucleus ever since, almost 10 years despite the attempts of Telus to get my business.


Then Telus came out with that ridiculous small yellow pages phone book for "our area" whatever the hell that was, I think it was NE part of Calgary. Why would I keep two Yellow Pages around, this dumb little one and a big one for ALL of Calgary? Did they really think that we are that withdrawn that we (the customers) would only shop our little area? Dumb dumb dumb. I sent them a letter. They didn't respond.

When the media reported that Telus had the worst service of any provider and crappy phone service (this after they laid off hundreds of service personnel to cut costs), the president came on TV promising things would be fixed. I do believe he included his email address to show how resolved he was in his statements. So I sent him an email. Got no response. I indicated that a response to my email would show he was being honest. He didn't reply so he wasn't. Okay, so maybe he got 1000 emails. So what? Even sending a form letter to me (and the other 999) would have appeased me. At least they READ it! Well, they didn't do that so Telus is off my good guys list.

I've since sent emails asking for quotes for Internet Service and ADSL (just to see where they come in) and they don't respond to that either! What is wrong with these people? (See SHAW - they are no better). I sent them some other emails telling them how they can improve their service, with a cell phone directory (instead of just the white pages), and how they can get the ADSL market back by offering sweet deals. They don't do either and haven't answered any email I have ever sent.

I figured if these dumb people were running Telus, then it would be stupid for me to invest with them, so I sold my Telus shares.

Addendum:  I recently had issues with my ADSL connection and called Telus.  They came out 3 times when things still didn't work, even replacing an ADSL modem that my Internet Service Provider had put in.  The tech did this on two Saturdays in a row and I think a Wednesday.  Very responsive.  The problem was NOT a Telus issue in the end but rather with the ADSL modem!!  Telus did not charge me.  So, on the service side, they are really good.  I take back a lot of what I said above.

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Best Buy

Like Visions, don't expect warranty from these guys.

I bought a remote car starter that was installed by Best Buy. I bought the good one too, with feedback so I knew when the engine started. Shortly thereafter, I noticed a crack in the LCD display that now no longer worked.

I took it back to Best Buy who asked if I had the extended warranty on the item. When I said no, they replied that if I had the extended warranty they could replace the unit right away. Otherwise I'd have to send the unit back to manufacturer. Say what? What kind of crap is that?

The back of the install sheet said the unit was warrantied for 1 year and Best Buy should have taken care of it. They should replace the unit with a new one that THEY obtain from manufacturer. If I had known this was how they were going to handle warranty, I would have bought the unit off the Internet for 1/2 the price! What's the advantage of paying more to a vendor when he doesn't even handle warranty for you?

The replacement cost, if I wanted to buy a new one, was $150. Yeah, for just the remote!

It's important to note that Best Buy didn't REJECT my claim because I was somehow responsible for breaking the unit. They didn't even CONSIDER my claim!

Okay it was summer now, I didn't need it, but when winter reared it's ugly head and my remote didn't work, I went back to Best Buy. Same story. I contacted the manufacturer who said they wouldn't warranty it because it had been a year since I bought it. They were a little concerned Best Buy would pull the old extended warranty crap on me, but they still refused to help me out. At one point they offered me a new remote for $49.00, but by then, I had opened the remote up, removed the LCD, so that now the unit would work without eating batteries. No display, but the vehicle starts. Why should I pay ANYTHING? What does "1 year warranty mean anyway?"

I sent a complaint to the Better Business Bureau. Best Buy head office responded to me by saying they needed more information and a copy of my contract. What contract? The extended warranty? What idiots! This wasn't about Best Buy not honoring THEIR extended warranty, but about them not honoring the manufacturers warranty! Plus, there was no email address and no 1-800 number. Is that customer service, forcing your customers to spend MORE money to get warranty they should have got hassle-free in the first place?  I said the hell with it. I'd rather buy a new remote from another manufacturer and/or dealer. Hey, I know, I'll shop on the Internet and buy one from the USA for 1/2 the price!

No wonder Best Buy is empty of customers most of the time I go there.

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Optima Batteries

I don't know why these batteries are rated so high, because they are absolute crap.  I've had 3 of them starting with a Blue Top I bought at a performance auto shop.  It didn't work from the git-go and wouldn't take a charge.  I returned it and was told to get a Yellow Top, which they had to order in for me.  This one lasted just a little over two years, past the crappy warranty period, and I had to buy another one.  I waited awhile, then just before a car show I was taking my car too I bought another, at a battery store that sold, well, just batteries.  This one lasted about a year and then would not take a charge.  It charged enough to start the car, let me take the car to work, then failed when I was leaving work, much to my embarrassment!  I had to get a boost!  Yeah, my fancy show-off car and I had to boost it.

I tried to charge it on a trickle charger and couldn't get the voltage over 11 volts.  I took it back to the battery shop and he said he couldn't get Optimas any more but  he would honor the warranty and BOUGHT the battery back.  This was Battery World.  Highly recommended.

In the meantime I put in the battery I bought at Canadian Tire about 6-7 years ago for my race car.  It was stored and trickle charged occasionally throughout the winter like the Optima was, but this one still performs flawlessly. Oh, I  bought another battery (since the first was a little too tall) - it has a 6 year warranty.  The lead-acid in my F150 truck is still going after 13 years!

I sent an email to Optima describing the events and asked for a response.  They did not respond.  Piss on them then.  They get a bad rap and suffer my wrath by being listed on this web-site.  Don't buy their crap, it doesn't work and they don't have tech support that cares.